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Discussion in 'Steam Traction' started by acorb, Jul 26, 2009.

  1. The Saggin' Dragon

    The Saggin' Dragon Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Moderator Friend

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    1951 SOUTH LYNN 31D
    1952 SOUTH LYNN 31D
    1955 SOUTH LYNN 31D
    1959 WOODFORD HALSE 2F
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    1962 WOODFORD HALSE 2F
    1963 HEATON MERSEY 9F
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    1966 CARLISLE (KINGMOOR) 12A
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    Lovely job, thanks for posting the photos. The "pig" looks great in a smart black livery despite the rain! I am certain that this loco was based on the old M&GNR system for a while and has close connections with what is now part of the NNR. Others will be able to give more information I'm sure.
     
  3. 46118

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    43106 was standing in Bridgnorth shed yard today, not in steam, and having a clean. The top smokebox lamp iron was adorned by a little fat model pig with wings....

    Personally I dont think the Ivatt looks that ugly, and does not really justify the "Flying Pig" name!

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    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, I suppose. Personally I do think it's ugly, but like most people on the mpd, I think that if it goes well and pulls trains, it can be forgiven anything!
     
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    These locos dominated the last M&GN days, however if 43106 would of stayed there she would of ended up at Kings scrapyard like the others. her years at South Lynn I'm sure there would of been many trips of the Melton Constable to Cromer line (nnr).

    This is why the NNR want the engine to visit so much as it will be the most authentic late M&GN train you can really get.

    The wait is almost over!
     
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    I must admit that I think it's ugly, but presumably pretty utilitarian - interesting that the Riddles team managed the make it's derivative - the 76xxx class look more conventional.
     
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    It is ugly, but so is 1501, and that is some tool!
     
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    Now in my opinion 1501 is a fantastic engine and isn't ugly. It's a beast as well!
     
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    But is supposed to "bounce" somewhat at line speed due to its short wheelbase.

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    Not really - its heavy enough for this not to be a problem and it does'nt bounce as much as a bunker first 57xx does.
     
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    1472 is quite right. 1501 is a very smooth riding engine. If you want bounce, you need a 57XX bunker-first and pulled well up the rack.
     
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    I took some pictures of 43106 with the flying pig mounted on the lamp bracket. http://www.michael527.fotopic.net/c1751177.html

    However, what is the 'rolling chassis' in Bridgnorth engine yard (just behind the platform) it appears to be a 4-6-0 from 1956. Can someone tell me what it was please?
     
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    Phil, thanks for that. I had wondered if it was a BR 4mt, but only took a very hurried shot of it.
     
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    7714

    I gather 7714 is now out of traffic and after a short stint in the Engine House - as mentioned everywhere else - is intended to be reboilered with the 'spare' pannier boiler ex-5764 and return to traffic in late 2010.

    Patrick
     
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    7714 will swap places with 1501 on 22nd October according to SVR traffic notes with a class 20 doing the honours. 1501 will be going straight to Bridgnorth for preliminary examinations prior to overhaul. However, as D1039 says it should only be a short stay on display for 7714 until the spare boiler is ready. would I be right in thinking that 7714 had work done on her bottom end recently?
     
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    Loose bits on the crank axle sorted at Rileys late 2006, and loco reassembled early 2007, so the "underneath" parts should not be too worn.
    Spare boiler being worked on under contract at Tyseley.
     
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    I don't think so it was in the Bridgnorth boiler shop last week! - though some plates are thought to be on order from TYS
     
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    Ah, slip of the pen, you are correct, the plates are at TYS, I recall reading that they had the forming capacity.
    On another issue re Bridgnorth works, there is a report on the main SVR website that confirms the purchase of the ex-Leicester MPD wheeldrop, with work to instal at BN scheduled between January and April next year. Excellent news!

    Incidentally, can someone who knows about these things explain why the hole a wheeldrop fits in has to be so deep? The SVR website says a "17 foot" hole is required, and I recall with either the Mid-Hants or NYMR wheeldrops reading that an excavation of around 20 feet was necessary. As a complete layman on these matters I assumed that the space below the running rail would need to be slightly deeper than the largest diameter of driving wheelset that you were likely to drop. Clearly there is more to it! Help anyone please!

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    Incidentally, can someone who knows about these things explain why the hole a wheeldrop fits in has to be so deep? The SVR website says a "17 foot" hole is required, and I recall with either the Mid-Hants or NYMR wheeldrops reading that an excavation of around 20 feet was necessary. As a complete layman on these matters I assumed that the space below the running rail would need to be slightly deeper than the largest diameter of driving wheelset that you were likely to drop. Clearly there is more to it! Help anyone please!

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    Putting it simply - the machinery to support the wheels & be able to lower them is below ordinary rail level so that the loco can be rolled off the wheeldrop with one set of wheels lowered. Therefore the "hole" required has to be more than the depth of the temporary track + the max wheel diameter + the height of the lifting table machinery + the civil engineering work necessary to mount the whole thing.
     

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