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SVR wagons 2019

Discussion in 'Heritage Rolling Stock' started by olly5764, Jan 10, 2019.

  1. Ploughman

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    I always like to see your posts.
    Tends to spur me on when contemplating what we need to be doing with our wagons on the NYMR Civils fleet.
     
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    Yes, please do keep writing. Your posts are interesting and insightful, which portray the quality of work very well.

    It is always interesting to see how other wagon groups overcome the problems encountered on preserved wagons.
     
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  3. olly5764

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    Thank you folks for your kind words. It looks like I may be a bit quite this week though!
     
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    Every time I look at the Mica B there's less of it! Being double skinned she traps water between the two halves of the body, you can imagine how it attracts rot, debate has turned to whether or not to replace the zinc lining, its getting more and more tatty every time we remove it
    101961 now has top coat on three sides, we are hoping to get chance to turn her, so attention can turn to what is currently the rock side.
    98480 is getting some serious attention, three new brake hangers have been made and one old one repaired, one set of brake gear is now in bits in the tin shed, waiting for the new bits to be fitted.
    Hopefully catch you soon
     
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    Time for a midweek, colour, all singing, all dancing supplement (mainly because I may not be about on Saturday) the three pics above show the condition of 98480's brakes, note in the first pic the gap between the pin and the drop link, this is supposed to be 0.032" as you can probably tell, those days are well behind it.
    The other two pics are more general shots of the worn parts, although with replacement parts ready to go on, these will hopefully be repairable to go on something else, the exception being the brake push rods which will be modified and re-used here.
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    This next shot shows the state of the one hanger we had to refurbish, the front hole has been trued up ready for plugging and re-drilling, and emphasises how bad the other one is!
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    The final three shots show one of the new hangers in the final stages of production, the first shot being, of course, the blank, with the second showing the 7/8" drilled hole, and finally the 29/32" reamer going through to accurately give the correct size and alignment.
    Sorry I've not got any shots of what the other lads were up to, as I'm sure you are aware, I've had my own hands rather full, but hopefully someone will oblige with a pic.
    Cheers,
    Olly
     
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    Haven't forgotten you all, just taking a few weeks off at the moment (purely because all of my busy weekends have arrived in one lump) but I see from the pics on faceache that the lads have been busy, will bring you up to speed when I know more.
     
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    Finally, a report! Rumours of my demise have been greatly exaggerated! Between driving and firing turns, a gala, a trip to Devon, and skipping round the country with my friend and her twin boys, I'm sure you can imagine, I've not had much time for wagons myself recently.
    However, the lads have been busy, with 101961 coming back together very nicely with the ironwork going back onto the body and large amounts of top coat being applied.
    The regent tank is nearing completion of a repaint, and despite the very funny photo-shopped picture doing the rounds recently, owing to the wagon not being insulated there are no plans to use it to contain the lads tea supplies!
    Meanwhile, poor old 98480 is still undergoing surgery. I'm beginning to understand how doctors feel with a desperately ill but curable patient! At the moment, she has no body, no floor, no end uprights, a missing buffer, no draw hooks, no brake hangers, drop links, push rods or blocks, a missing side upright, and no kerb rails, and incredibly there are still more bits to come off.
    Some of these bits will either be repaired and put back on, some will be swapped for repaired bits that have been removed from other vehicles, some will be replaced with new parts, some will be refurbished and used for other projects and some with end up in the scrap bin or the fire, however hopefully, in the next couple of weeks, I will be able to stick some new bits back on, and the old girl will, for a short while, look slightly less sorry for herself.
    Catch you (Hopefully) very soon,
    Ian
     
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    Thanks for the report Ian! Good to see you're keeping busy!

    Keith
     
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    Worn out is more like it mate. Lol
     
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    I managed another report! Woo hoo! Go me! One again, sorry it has been a bit patchy this year.
    The lads have been busy, and the Mica is getting some new timber finally, meaning the hole in the side is getting smaller. Hopefully I'll get chance to have a closer look at this job this weekend.
    101961 has had a second coat on the lettering, and is getting closer to leaving us.
    Currently 98480 is taking up most of my time, and hence why I haven't had much chance to take note of what else has been happening. This rather tired wagon is now missing one head stock, the head stock fixing brackets, the brake push rods, blocks, drop links, hangers, safety straps, plus the floor, side planks, one side upright and all her end uprights, and yet there is still more to come off.
    In order that the chassis members the headstock is attached to don't move, a solid piece of angle iron has been welded to all of them to keep everything in place. When the new headstock is on, this will be removed again.
    The keen eyed of you might have seen me last weekend, walking between the machine shop and the Van holding pieces of oddly shaped metal marked RoN, RiN, RoS and RiS referring to which corner of the wagon they were for, these being the new brake hangers, drilled and ready to be reattached as have some of the fixing brackets for the south end head stock, so hopefully some riveting action will be on the cards before Christmas.
    More news next week
    Ian
     
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    Despite the cold, things seem to be going quite well at Bewdley at the moment, must be down to all those warming cups of tea.
    Inside the shed, the Mica B is getting timber on the walls and starting to look like a van again. With one wall and one end now largely complete, and already primed, hopefully some undercoat will be going on soon before it gets to cold. She is also getting some new spring clips for the ice tanks at either end of the vehicle.
    Meanwhile, poor old 98480 has had more surgery.
    Being equipped with DC3 brakes, one end of the wagon has a brake handle attached to a long drive shaft with a ratchet and Pawl mechanism on it, however this is connected via a series of rods, to the handle at the other end, which is on a short drive shaft, with just a handle and a crank on it. During her 98 year life, this short drive shaft, which should be subjected to nothing more than hand pressure, has sustained 0.250" of wear, so this has had to be removed and re-conditioned.
    First operation, disconnect the pull rod, remove the crank and handle (Much swearing involved as this involved some very decayed split pins, which were desperate to cling to life) drop one 'V' hanger off (Heating some nuts and more swearing required.....mainly swearing) and this should allow you to extract the shaft.
    Operation 2 - turn the damaged area back to round and true it up, fit split collars over the turned area and weld them together and in place.
    Operation 3 - Back to the lathe, and turn the welded on collars back down until the shaft fits nicely into both 'V' hangers, then put it all back together again and hope it all lines up (It does I was hoping to upload some pics but my internet seems to be acting up)
    There certainly won't be an update next week as I'll be in Buckfastleigh, but I'll catch you soon.
     
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    Finally got the Technology to behave. These are the pics I tried to up load yesterday!
    The first two show the shaft as described from 98480, with the irregularities turned out of the journals, note how much smaller the shiney bits are than the squares on the end!
    The third pic shows the collars welded in place, ready to be skimmed to fit.
    Pic number 4 shows the trial fitting of a V hanger (lathe switched off so I can't accidentally start her and fling this into orbit)
    And finally with the offending part back in place ready for painting.
     
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