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Teifi Valley Railway

Discussion in 'Narrow Gauge Railways' started by Anthony Coulls, Jun 22, 2014.

  1. Elizabeth Perry

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    To confirm we bought over 9 miles of former trackbed to a point near Pencader, please see the attached map showing the actual track of the railway near Pencader . The junction is outside the actual village and the TVR was allowed to buy trackbed up to a few yards above that.
    Maybe TVR Volunteer can appreciate that the railway's setup has not always been the same as it is now. For example, the directors used to send in annual Accounts ...
     

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    The sale of the trackbed at and near the former Llandysul station for the Llandysul bypass road has not been mentioned. I am uncertain of the date but it was probably about 20 years ago.
     
  3. Elizabeth Perry

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    It was a compulsory purchase to enable the construction of the Llandysul bypass. Tricky situation as it involved a short isolated section of cutting crossed by 2 aged road bridges for whose maintenance we were responsible. So we were not going to be devastated to lose it, but we were able to negotiate because of the LRO. We were able to remove a large quantity of Victorian platform tiles for use at Henllan and could watch the 2 new road bridges being built, while being compensated by £15k.
     
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    The mystery of why there are no Accounts giving information on how the TVR and its cafe are doing has been solved. Mrs Cox has found a way to get out of it, as shown by a memo to me from Companies House. Both Companies should be closed down, but have lined up someone owed money to object to the closure. The objection means the Company can't be closed.
    The TVR last sent in Accounts in March 2022 - these were for 2020. The cafe last sent in Accounts in 2019 and these were for 2017.
    Is it laziness or paranoia or just nobody can be bothered?
     
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    Companies House apparently paralysed
     

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    Worth a read

    https://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog...might-raise-at-least-6-billion-of-tax-a-year/
     
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    Has the cafe still been trading? This year?
     
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    So if struck off the assets pass to the Government
     
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    Every food standard rating I have ever seen in a window was either 5, or maybe 4.

    Nobody posts a 1,2 or3....
     
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    You can get a zero rating! I suspect in that case the food would come with a free bottle of Imodium though...
     
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    I possibly ate in a place like that:

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    The back kitchen of a restaurant we ate in on the JingPeng pass.
    I'm not complaining, it was nice, I just don't know what I ate, as it is the practice to order for the group, so you just tuck in!
     
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    You just need to be creative where you put it. See where they put the gruaniad's 2-star rating on this poster... legend.jpg
     
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    Coincidentally, on the local news site today was a link to this interactive map which lists everywhere with a rating of 2 and below - https://pantryandlarder.com/grubby-grub/

    The reason in England you only see the 4 & 5 ratings is that it is not a legal requirement to display your rating, in Wales it is compulsory, I’m not sure about Scotland & Northern Ireland.
     
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    Low ratings do have a habit of being found out, though - a local cafe (not a greasy spoon!) that acquired a Zero rating was all over the local rag in no time at all.
     
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    Yes they do indeed, where I live is on the border of two areas, the one local news site (Gloucestershire Live) had the map on and regularly run stories on those places that get a low rating, over the border the Hereford Times goes one better and posts a weekly article on the latest inspection results (good of bad). Personally I think England should follow Wales and make displaying them compulsory.

    I remember a place in Fishguard got a poor rating, rather than deal with it they attempted to hide the rating, when pulled up on it they tried to hide it behind a hat stand and ended up with a £50k fine and so much bad press they eventually closed after losing so much business it wasn’t viable anymore!!!
     
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    Rather more important than the rating is that the same device is being used re the Teifi Valley Railway Ltd. This is not how a statutory authority should behave, dodging its responsibilities to the public. It took months of hard work for the group to obtain the Light Railway Order, guided by Major Olver of the Inspectorate, and we never forgot to take our obligations seriously. Distressing to watch. Note that it seems the TVR is no longer a member of the HRA.
     
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    Hang on a moment, but, were you not part of the board who breached the terms of the LRO by leasing the railway to a 3rd party? That’s a genuine question and not a pop at you but it’s kind of wrong to make out everything was rosy when clearly the TVR had management issues even then, something that’s gone on for years.

    I won’t attempt to make excuses for the current Shenanigans and actually agree that it isn’t right the company isn’t fulfilling its legal obligations (I’m not sure why that is such an issue for them).

    However, even accepting your previous comment at face value that the lease was something you were against but outvoted on, the fact is the railway wouldn’t be in this position to begin with if the board you were part of hadn’t made that decision.

    Even prior to that, before the track was ripped up there appears to be a lack of foresight regarding maintenance of the track, which had ended up in a run down condition which led to the the lease being seen as some kind of saviour (although it was the opposite). That suggests things were far from the rosy picture you are painting with this post, and I’m sorry to say indicates that collectively as a board you didn’t take those obligations seriously at all.
     
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    I was recalling the creation of the railway back in the 1970s. Things were very different then.
    Yes, things went badly wrong after the millenium and we now have the benefit of the book describing what happened by the man who orchestrated it all, Raymond Sanderson. His aim was that the businessman Dearing should takeover the Company and then decide whether or not to continue running a railway, doing away with all that not for profit social enterprise nonsense, selling off the yard for development etc.etc. Dearing was however scared off by a solicitor's letter and Sanderson isolated himself so that he could not be questioned.
    The lease was wrong, but it seemed to offer hope at a time when everything was deteriorating rapidly. The Responsible Person had refused to do any work on the track and increased his consumption of liquids. The Company was protected by a contract but that turned out to be meaningless. The Board was reduced to 3. Sanderson bypassed the 2 other directors and took over a rival group, the Society management committee, which he manipulated to support Dearing and sack me from all posts at the railway. Nevertheless I persevered and the threat of total closure faded.
    The present situation is not an inevitable consequence of the decision to sign the lease. The character of those who took over could be very different.
     
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