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'The Bath and Bristol Christmas Markets'. Thurs. 28 Nov

Discussion in 'What's Going On' started by free2grice, Nov 24, 2013.

  1. twr12

    twr12 Well-Known Member

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    Armchairs at full thrash again!!!!!!!!!!
     
  2. david1984

    david1984 Resident of Nat Pres

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    It's more ratable than a 33 ;)
     
  3. mrKnowwun

    mrKnowwun Part of the furniture

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    This bloke in the armchair assumed yesterday the '33 on the ECS move he filmed yesterday would have been on the back, he was really surprised when he heard the news it wasn't.
     
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    this charter was in the days before WCR was a TOC this train was operated by Merlin Rail remember them!!!!
     
  5. Dexter

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    How do you know this? Did you inspect the condition of the track in the cutting where the train stalled?
     
  6. Steve1015

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    Not quite but spoke to the bloke who did!
     
  7. david1984

    david1984 Resident of Nat Pres

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    WCRC were a TOC at the time, but as you say, it was not a WCRC train.
     
  8. A1X

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    12 months ago Tangmere slipped to a stand on the same bank with a WCRC train to London from Weymouth. Granted Bulleids are less sure-footed than Black Fives, but they're more powerful to start with.

    It seems the memories of 45 years ago aren't the only ones which have slipped...
     
  9. Western Venturer

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    Second thread in a few days where this has been said...if a forum is anything its a place to put your thoughts forward and if somebody know better they put you right.....

    forum
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    We are all entitled to our OWN opinion... from an armchair or inspection pit...

    Good job the Crompton was close at hand but I think it should have been on the back from the start...(see above..)
     
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  10. KentYeti

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    Thank you for that post.

    I was going to respond, but no where near as politely and restrained as you have done.
     
  11. johnnew

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    Can't help thinking that this was bad planning and result was it buggered up the service trains. Was planning to go into Uni at Bournemouth on the train today until I heard the local traffic news about bustitution so drove instead.



    History of failures on this bank, including IIRC even modern traction on a Furzebrook tank train in the past, as well as the steam run about a year ago when Tangmere got stuck. Add in a coldish loco starting from Poole on a miserable November morning with a flange oiler part way up the slope too AND a train over weight for the loco compared to the days when steam up there was run as a regular occurrence.

    I was an emergency planning officer before retirement. The response today to Tangmere's failure last weekend appears to have got it wrong by (a) sending an underpowered replacement loco type and (b) as you can see from my summary above from a completely wrong risk assessment adding in no margin for less than 100% locomotive performance or less than 100% available adhesion. Not a good advert for steam tours.

    Written in my personal capacity this time not as an SLS spokesman.
     
  12. Sheff

    Sheff Resident of Nat Pres

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    B*gger. Another own goal it would appear. We really must be trying NR's patience I reckon.
     
  13. johnnew

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    The other stupidity on the modern railway of course is incompatible buffers etc., so a following train can't just buffer up and shove. Even if it did Bournemouth is now so cut back on track work I don't think an overtake is easily possible until Brockenhurst! Not sure what they would do with a failed EMU.
     
  14. Martin Perry

    Martin Perry Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Moderator Friend

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    Usual thing is to move it with a similar unit.
     
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    I would think South West Trains are no to happy either with them being the company most affected with the last two problems..such a pity these things happen..lets hope we can learn from this ..
     
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    Hey Nick, how are you doing. Wolverhampton Wanderers doing very well and the mighty greens, PLYMOUTH ARGYLE, eight matches unbeaten and just a few points off the play offs.

    I love your post because it says it all. A forum is to express your views whether pleasing or upsetting (no swearing). Why someone should be accused of being and Armchair contributor is beyond me. Everyone is entitled to their point of view.

    Why don't people get it??
     
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    Im good Nick,especially as Wolves are winning a few now..like Argyle..

    Just wish we didnt have these episodes we have had lately..seems we are getting more recently what with lines side fires and failures etc..hope this is the bad period out of the way and we can look forward to plenty more main line steam...(..and diesel of course...)
     
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    Of course, we will all be proved right when with tomorrows ECS the '33 romps up the bank with a quick shove from the 5 at the back

    :p
     
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    What's happened to Braunton? Surely that is the obvious substitute for Tangmere?
     
  20. ADB968008

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    5 pages and not a picture.. I guess everyone was at working, or attacking the keyboard :)
     

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