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Things that seemed a good idea at the time, but in practice are pretty useless.

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  1. huochemi

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    Yes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_Pacific_GTELs . GT3 was rather different in that the turbine was not used to generate electricity to power the wheels. Many countries experimented e.g. USSR, China, France Switzerland.
     
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    In his paper to the I Loco E Colonel Fell focused on its superior power/weight ratio compared with a diesel electric loco of the period. (This factor presumably also influenced the early enthusiasm for diesel hydraulics e.g. 80 tons for a Warship v. 130+ tons for a Peak or Class 40.) Ricardos were involved with the development of the Fell concept, so it could hardly be dismissed as a crackpot scheme, although it seems that BR (probably correctly) was not very interested in the concept.
     
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    I don't think I'd like to get too close to the platform edge with that around...

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  4. Eightpot

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    So that's your next new-build project Bryan????
    Cheers,
    Ray.
     
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    I seem to recall Tri-ang made a model that used the same principle. Braking could be tricky
     
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    that would be the Battlespace turbo car
    http://www.tri-ang.co.uk/battleturbo.htm

    cheers

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    I’m sure we’ve covered this elsewhere, but ‘inappropriate streamlining’ should feature… Schools, GWR 6014/5005, etc.

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    Don't need a new build as we already got one.:)
    Needs a bit of a tidy up though.
    Other than the one at the NRM not sure if there are anymore around, unless anyone knows any different?
     

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    Put some doors in, and longitudinal seats on the running plate.... No steam heat problems in winter!

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    Brunel failed to take the next step. Make the tube bigger and put the whole train inside, cf Hyperloop. :)

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    Yes, though hyperloop is not powered by air pressure. The loop is evacuated to reduce/eliminate air resistance and enable much higher speeds. As the loop is in a vacuum the passenger modules must be pressurised, yet another reason why it's a very unwieldy technology.
     
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    Sounds just like the sort of project Brunel would have supported...
     
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    There - that’s my suggestion for “things that seemed a good idea at the time, but in practice pretty useless”. :)

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    That's harsh.
     
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    Well, there's the broad gauge that had to be expensively converted to standard; the atmospheric railway that had to be converted to conventional traction; the first locomotives ordered to his design were dreadful beyond compare and almost immediately withdrawn; a ship that bankrupted its builder, almost failed to be launched and then exploded on its maiden voyage ... For a man so revered, he was certainly associated with losing his financial backers a lot of money!

    (I'll accept he was a half-decent bridge builder ...)

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