Tornado

Quite impressive to get rivet counting on an all-welded design! \/

 

Who said it was an all welded cab?

The cab is neither Doncaster nor Darlington! It was assembled at Grosmont on the NYMR but I cant' remember whether it is flush or snap head on the outside!.

 

"no link with doncaster"

no i suppose not #-o

 

Rivets

This is not just an "anorak" question:
For those of you too young to have seen the A1's in the flesh, or who have not read the books (looked at the pictures) there is a distinct, and highly visible difference between the two (Doncaster and Darlington) batches as far as the tenders are concerned. The Darlington tenders were smooth, whereas the Doncaster ones were "knobbly", as were the cabs, to a less obvious degree, so you could tell, from a distance, where the loco was built, although some tenders got swapped towards the very end.

 

Didn't Darlo paint the cylinder covers differently as well?

 

i very much doubt they would do an open day at carnforth then :smt010

 

Eh?

 

wrong topic ](*,) ](*,) ](*,)

 

'fraid not, 60014 was scrapped!


As an afterthought, wouldn't it be nice if the surviving Class 60 diesels were to receive the names of their steam predecessors.

 

In LNER days, Darlington stuck to the NER tradition of painting the cylinder covers green (on green locos), and their shade of green was adopted as LNER standard.

The first Darlington-built A1, 60130 was completed in September 1948, and although it appeared in LNER green, with BRITISH RAILWAYS on the tender, its cylinder covers were black! It was named KESTREL in July 1950, and was painted BR blue at the same time. It received its final livery of BR green in January 1952.

 

Tender Tank has been delivered and trial fitted, update on website today.

Its getting closer!!!!

http://www.a1steam.com/update.html

 

....So, it's a Doncaster tender; look at the rows of rivets!

(Runs for cover)

 

To be honest i was expecting a corridor tender but then that would be historically incorrect. Looks great by the way and it will soon be looking even better on the mainline.

 

1, 2, 3, 4,........ nope, running out of fingers to count them all on!

 

Must I reiterate this for the benefit of those too lazy to look at books on the subject?: There was a very distinct difference between the tenders of the Doncaster-built A1's and the Darlington version: The Doncaster ones were snap-head rivetted ("knobbly" for the benefit of the lazy), and the Darlington ones were counter-sunk rivetted ("smooth").

Try reading (or looking at the pictures in) the following:

Locomotives of the LNER, Part 2A, Tender Engines Classes A1 to A10, published by RCTS
Yeadon's Register of LNER Locomotives, Volume 3, Raven, Thompson & Peppercorn Pacifics
The Power of the A1s, A2s and A3s, by J S Whiteley & G W Morrison
North Eastern Pacifics (Bradford Barton)

The latter two are basically picture-books, so you should be alright there!

 

Must I reiterate this for the benefit of those too lazy to look at books on the subject?: There was a very distinct difference between the tenders of the Doncaster-built A1's and the Darlington version: The Doncaster ones were snap-head rivetted ("knobbly" for the benefit of the lazy), and the Darlington ones were counter-sunk rivetted ("smooth").

Try reading (or looking at the pictures in) the following:

Locomotives of the LNER, Part 2A, Tender Engines Classes A1 ro A10, published by RCTS
Yeadon's Register of LNER Locomotives, Volume 3, Raven, Thompson & Peppercorn Pacifics
The Power of the A1s, A2s and A3s, by J S Whiteley & G W Morrison
North Eastern Pacifics (Bradford Barton)

The latter two are basically picture-books, so you should be alright, there![/quote:n814gf7t]

I wouldn't have put in that last comma in your last sentence. It spoils the flow of it.

 

Short news item on BBC R4 this morning (short as in 10 secs!)

 

Longer article on Beeb website....http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7238506.stm

Contains the usual journalistic inaccurracies, of course. It's a "steam train" and it's called "The Tornado"...

 

BBC figures look suspect on no of steam trains in operation in the UK; 1300+? ](*,)

Add on the nonsense about British Rail.

The BBC publicity is better than nothing at all, but some better subediting would have been in order.

 

I don't normally listen to Radio 4, but this morning by fluke I did hear the clip whilst going through the channels.

Is was a very brief snippet indeed but at least it was a broadcast.

Perhaps Ben Ando could be the BBC correspondent. I understand he is an enthusiast.