Vintage Trains - 2013 Tour Program

I knew I should of made a comment earlier, but didn't want to upset Ralph again, could always do a repeat of last year and decide the Crewe dead weight isn't required after half the tour .

 

Lets not forget the poodle ran of coal when heading back to safer western territory.

 

They had better be, Sir Ralph! Remember who has charge of the seating plan......and I am sure we could arrange for you to be sat next to that suddenly very sticky (read welded shut) window! Lol

 

If we had known just how unreliable Crewe was going to be on that given day, we would have made sure the poodle had all the coal it needed.

Another person sitting next to a shut window. I must review our coach window maint schedule.

Lol

 

I feel a window un-sticking itself as we speak! :becky:

 

Interesting pic. Where, when and what? ELR? Nunney & Hamilton?

 

Hi Ben, Will The Cumbrian Conqueror route be Shap both ways as in the tour route info or Shap first then return via Settle Carlisle as stated at the top right of the tour page?

 

Ben what sort of timings you looking at for double headed hallage if you give me some insight I have more chance of booking lol your got my money for one trip already well when I book it .

 

cant remember when this was but u are right in the i.d. of the locos. The Duchesses were piloted on rare accs, i have seen a pic of a black 5 doing just that on the main line. My location is Burrs on the ELR

 

46229 Duchess of Hamilton (Maroon and green liveries) - YouTube

 

I've seen pictures of Duchesses piloted by 2-6-4 tanks, Black 5s, Royal Scots, Clans and Patriots and even a Black 5 being
piloted by a Duchess which was apparently against the rules. But, as you say, double headed workings were rare.

 

645pos-6609 | Flickr - Photo Sharing! Duchess pilots a crab

 

Well, they do say rules are meant to be broken!

 

Same event? Seems the ELR were out to break a few taboos on that occassion!

 

If we use Western Region practice then Nunney was the train engine, though I'm struggling to think why Swindon thought putting the pilot loco inside was better.

 

The reason I've always been told, and I'm not sure how much sense this makes, is that the pilot engine driver might not know the road as well as the train driver so the train engine would go on front so the driver with, supposed, greater route knowledge would be able to control the train better.

What I wonder is that why would the driver of the pilot engine have a lesser route knowledge than the train engine driver. Of course, what I've been told may be wrong.