Wainwright H Class 0-4-4T

I have added a lot of new photos of Wainwright H class 0-4-4T


SE&CR and Southern Railway era


5

https://railway-photography.smugmug.com/SRSteam/18991913-SECR-Harry-Wainwright/Wainwright-Tank-Engines/Harry-Wainwright-H-Class/i-2gttSFQ


551

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1266

https://railway-photography.smugmug.com/SRSteam/18991913-SECR-Harry-Wainwright/Wainwright-Tank-Engines/Harry-Wainwright-H-Class/i-8V4gPVx


1319+1321 at Stewarts Lane

https://railway-photography.smugmug.com/SRSteam/18991913-SECR-Harry-Wainwright/Wainwright-Tank-Engines/Harry-Wainwright-H-Class/i-t5ZXrWn


B.R Era


31005

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31164 Ashford 16th August 1949

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31193

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31263 & 31690 Ashford L.C.G.B.The Kentish Venturer Rail Tour (Farewell To Steam) 25th February 1962

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31269 + 31595 Ashford

https://railway-photography.smugmug.com/SRSteam/18991913-SECR-Harry-Wainwright/Wainwright-Tank-Engines/Harry-Wainwright-H-Class/i-QZ34tXN


31308 West Grinstead

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31310

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31500

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31193 Depford Wharf R.C.T.S. (London Branch) London River Rail Tour No.2 3rd October 1959

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31540 St Leonards 17th August 1954

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31544 Tonbridge with the 1539 ex Tunbridge Wells West service 16th June 1962

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31554 Tonbridge 22nd March 1958

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Neil

 

Hi Neil - another fine selection of photographs of one of the best looking tank locos to run in this country. But........(sorry there has to be a but!) picture 19 shows N0. 1699 which is an R1 not an H class. Easily identified as it lacks the pagoda style cab roof so characteristic of the H Class.

Peter

 

Thanks Peter, I have moved it from this collection

Neil

 

Just to expand on that for those who are not of a Southern persuasion, the Southern classified the rebuilt ex SECR class R 0-6-0Ts as R1 and they did have a pagoda cab. As a youngster I did a fairly hamfisted and not very acccurate conversion of a Hornby model into an H after travelling behind the real thing on the Westerham Branch. Perhaps that should read ahead of, it was a one way trip after school, propelled on the branch to Dunton Green, then home to Grove Park on an EMU.
The duplication of the class designation came about as the 0-4-4Ts were of LCDR origin not SER.

 

The SECR never made anything easy with class designations (or numbering...). Essentially, ex-SER locos had class letters (A, B, F, Q, R etc); they had a suffix "1" when they were rebuilt, typically by adding new boilers, though sometimes there would be other minor changes. So as you say, an ex-SER class R, reboilered, became a class R1.

The LCDR also used class letters, but as the exemplar of a type. As the type developed over time, new versions would become {Letter}1, {Letter}2 etc. So Class M was a 4-4-0 passenger engine; M1, M2, M3 were subsequent enlargements of that design.

Oddly enough, the original Kirtley (LCDR) 0-4-4Ts were class A; there were A1 and A2 enlargements. In 1891, there was a further order which originally was going to be for more class A2 locos; that was amended to a revised design which originally was going to be class A3, but then for some reason they emerged as class R. There was then (in very early SE&CR days) an enlargement of that design which was the R1. That design in turn evolved into the classic Wainwright H class.

Tom

 

Even more fun after Grouping, when LBSC class designations could clash with both SER & LCDR. A Southern Class "B1" could be a rebuilt ex-SER 4-4-0, an ex-LCDR 0-6-0 or an ex-LBSC 0-4-2 ("Gladstone" type). Of course, if you are an LNER-fan, you will have quite different ideas about a "B1".