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West Somerset Railway General Discussion

Discussion in 'Heritage Railways & Centres in the UK' started by gwr4090, Nov 15, 2007.

  1. Bayard

    Bayard Well-Known Member

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    You are comparing apples with oranges. With the NMYR, the heritage railway is running over NR's metals. With the WSR, the TOC would be running over the heritage railway's metals, something that GWR appear not to have a problem with.
     
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  2. Wriggley

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    Yes what you say concurs with the WSSRT's announcement on @Steve Edge's website on 20th July, but the subsequent (PLC) update about the Emergency Appeals is what leads to an apparent contradiction in how the funds are going to be spent.
     
  3. Steve Edge

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    Not really. The news item describes the latest sums from the "WSR Emergency Appeals". In the previous news item, the Peall Trust say the donation is made to "offer some relief during this challenging time." and I found no need to query the weekly update provided to me. It is still £15000 to the Railway is it not? The "WSR Emergency Appeals" updates are not just about the track renewals. I hope that helps.

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    Not really.

    £7500 of that £15,000 Peall Railway Trust donation, "will be used to form part of the Trust's contribution to the Gauge Museum project" (by the WSSRT's own press release).

    Work on the Gauge Museum doesn't sound like an Emergency to me.

    Ergo, in my humble opinion, the full £15,000 should not be counted towards the 'WSR Emergency Appeal'.

    I know it's only a minor thing but when it comes to spending money, it's important that the money is spent as the donor intended (ref to HPC debacle). It does raise a question about what other pots of money have been counted towards the growth of the 'WSR Emergency' funds.

    I don't know if I can be any clearer.
     
  5. RichardBrum

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    We were told on here that there was 4-5 or 5-6 weeks worth of work still to be done when the p/way works got stopped prior to the Covid shutdown (ie. it was the WSR that stopped the works)

    Now I believe that not all of that work was 'opening critical', as Robin has stated that they were keeping track of the progress so that it wouldn't affect normal/planned opening.

    With there being no works done since (?), there is still likely 1 weeks worth of critical work to be done.


    As I said on my response about the survey, schools are back the first week of September.
    So if the WSR wanted to capture some of that market, that would have to happen in August, which means p/way work happening now.
    Any sign of that?


    The WSR & GWSR are similar travel times from Bristol;
    The GWSR are going for 9 operating days in the last 2 weeks of August (including mid-week days)
    The WSR have nothing planned beyond the first weekend of August.
     
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  6. Sidmouth

    Sidmouth Resident of Nat Pres Staff Member Moderator

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    I'm 100% with you on this . Basic accounting and reconciliation is clearly not the forte of members of the WSR and claiming a £15000 donation to the rail replacement fund when actually £7500 is going to that pot , the balance being used for gauge museum and carriage covers is frankly bizarre and calls into question all the other numbers quoted
     
  7. RichardBrum

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    When a chunk of the current board, & 'advisors', are from those previous boards though...
     
  8. flying scotsman123

    flying scotsman123 Resident of Nat Pres

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    No doubt just a "technical accounting issue". Wonder how often that excuse will come up in the coming months...
     
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    Rub your eyes, Martin, and look again. Exactly where in that news item does it say the £15000 donation is going to the "rail replacement fund"?

    Steve
     
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    And exactly who is going to do this p/way work?

    Steve
     
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    It doesn't say £15,000 is going to the 'rail replacement fund', you are correct. But that is to split hairs.

    However, I will repeat.....

    The press release from WSSRT said, of the £15,000 donation from the Peall Railway Trust, "The balance of £7,500 will be used to form part of the Trust's contribution to the Gauge Museum project (part funded by the National Lottery Heritage Fund) with the remainder going to purchase covers to protect heritage carriages."

    Neither work on the Gauge Museum, or purchasing of carriage covers, doesn't sound like an Emergency to me.

    Ergo, I repeat, the full £15,000 should not be counted towards the 'WSR Emergency Appeal'.

    Unless I am really missing something here?
     
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  12. The Dainton Banker

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    None of the current Board members (as at 30/6/20) were on the previous Board. All have been appointed since JJP joined the Board on 13 Sept 2018. As for "advisors", who do you have in mind ? So many have been dismissed, some more politely than others apparently, that one wonders whether the current Board accepts advice from anyone !
     
  13. The Dainton Banker

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    I thought one of the PW teams was complaining of a lack of work and direction several pages ago.
    If the GWSR can lay the whole Broadway extension with a volunteer team then surely the WSR can do a few hundred yards/metres ?
     
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  14. Robin Moira White

    Robin Moira White Resident of Nat Pres

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    Thanks for agreeing that @Sidmouth was quite wrong to say that.

    Steve
     
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    Have a look at the latest newsletter.

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    What due diligence was done on Board appointments when you were on the plc board?
     
  18. Sidmouth

    Sidmouth Resident of Nat Pres Staff Member Moderator

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    @Steve Edge my apologies for misreading Wriggleys post although I do agree with the main tenet
     
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    Please provide evidence for the above assertions
     
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    I have. It says that a number of permanent staff, including PW workers, have left the Railway's employ. How does that prevent the work from being done by the volunteer PW teams ?
     
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