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West Somerset Railway General Discussion

Discussion in 'Heritage Railways & Centres in the UK' started by gwr4090, Nov 15, 2007.

  1. RailWest

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    One thing in the Plc's statement which intrigues me....

    The grant apparently is for £865,000 and will cover such things as 'infrastructure renewal' and other costs such as staff etc - all good news. But the Plc then says "The NLHF grant will also enable the Plc to either fund or undertake a number of small schemes put forward by the WSR’s Stations and Friends Groups, Station Masters and WSR family organisations, including the West Somerset Railway Association, West Somerset Steam Railway Trust and the Diesel and Electric Preservation Group." So apparently, after doing all the necessary infrastructure renewal etc, there will still be money left over for 'other schemes', whereas I would have thought - given the 'doom & gloom' of recent WSR financial forecasts about the longer-term future - that the grant might have been barely enough to last us around until 2022.
     
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    Whatever the rights and wrongs of the internecine struggles within the railway, this is good news and will give the railway a fighting chance to survive. However in order to increase the chances of this, everyone now needs to stop the squabbling, bury the vast number of hatchets that have been waved around and pull together.
     
  3. Jamessquared

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    I wonder if you are overthinking it ... If it includes "infrastructure renewal" that could include one specific piece of work; it is not the same as saying it will "entirely renew the infrastructure". My understanding is that the submissions had to be against a planned, budgeted set of deliverables, not simply "let's pluck a number out of thin air". So I'd guess there is some specific line item in the WSR's submission to achieve a particular infrastructure objective, which is most likely related to the need to be able to run trains again. I've got no inside knowledge, but sounds more at the "how much do we need to complete the outstanding track work between Minehead and Dunster so we can run trains next year" end of the spectrum, rather than "how much would it cost to relay 20 miles of p/way" end ...

    Tom
     
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    The best way for that to happen is to sort out the railway's structure in a way that doesn't perpetuate the fiefdoms of the past and to do it before the railway reopens.
     
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    Congratulations to the Joint Fundraising Group. Hopefully it's not too late to put the cash to good use and generate revenues such as Halloween services from BL to Watchet
     
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    today's announcement of significant support for the heritage sector is to be welcomed and gives many lines the comfort that they can look forward now into 2021 .I'm pleased for the employees and volunteers on the railway that the award hopefully marks a step forward for them and it is interesting to see the acknowledged fruits of collaboration as opposed to individualism .

    It will be interesting to see who does any press interviews and hopefully the pleasure will be given to those who invested the most into bringing the application to fruition rather than any good times person

    what the award doesn't do is resolve the discussed structural issues which still revolve around Power and holding the freehold , the forced departure of railway family members and the lack and restrictions on railway operation . If anything the award may distract from these matters rather than bring them to the head which is realistically needed
     
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    I think that you are probably right, but in that case the statement seems even more puzzling. If the grant amount was targeted to a specific task/cost, then I wonder why there is 'money left over' unless perhaps the grant was rounded-up to the nearest £1000, in which case the 'spare cash' may be little more than a few hundred pounds. But every little helps.....:)
     
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    I thought I had read that the HLF Covid support programme was restricted to organisations that had previously received awards - so how did the WSR Plc qualify?
     
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    This isn't HLF funding I don't think, it's direct from the government through the DCMS. The WSSRT got a HLF fund a little while ago as they had been a previous recipient.
     
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    Paid by DCMS. Administered at arm's length by Arts Council and NHLF (formerly HLF)

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    This was a separate scheme: I believe the HLF assisted with selection, but it isn't an HLF scheme.

    Courtesy of @D1039 of this parish on another thread, the list of railway attractions who benefited is as listed below - I make the total amount about £8.9m to railway attractions. The caveats to that are that (1) There is to be a separate announcement about awards of over £1m, and so there may be other awardees and (2) I believe this is an England-only list, with separate announcements in Wales and presumably Scotland.

    My understanding is that the grant is time-limited and needs to be spent by March next year - so the recipients need to be organised to make sure that the work they have bid for is ready to go.

    Severn Valley Railway (Holdings) Public Limited Company £906,000
    Hollycombe working steam museum ltd £895,000
    West Somerset Railway Plc. £865,000
    Bluebell Railway PLC £727,200
    Mid Hants Railway Ltd / Mid Hants Railway Preservation Society Ltd (MHRPS) £600,000
    Romney, Hythe and Dymchurch Railway £470,000
    Modern Electric Tramways Ltd (Seaton Tramway) £435,100
    North Norfolk Railway plc £360,000
    South Devon Railway Trust £332,300
    Gloucestershire Warwickshire Steam Railway plc £318,000
    The Kent and East Sussex Railway Company Limited £301,500
    Bodmin & Wenford PLC £260,000
    Tanfield Railway Company Limited £245,500
    Keighley & Worth Valley Railway Preservation Society £231,600
    Swanage Railway Company £223,200
    Ribble Steam Railway Ltd £207,200
    Vintage Trains Charitable Trust £194,800
    The Mid Norfolk Railway Preservation Trust £190,500
    Wealden Railway Company Limited £153,900
    The A1 Steam Locomotive Trust £153,000
    Epping Ongar Railway Holdings Limited £98,000
    Wensleydale Railway Plc £90,000
    WyvernRail plc £85,000
    South Tynedale Railway Preservation Society £84,300
    Middleton Railway Trust £79,900
    LYNTON AND BARNSTAPLE RAILWAY COMMUNITY INTEREST COMPANY £79,300
    Helston Railway Preservation Company Ltd £76,100
    The Whitwell & Reepham Railway Preservation Society Ltd £49,000
    Northampton Steam Railway Limited £46,000
    Plym Valley Railway Company Limited £27,900
    Sittingbourne and Kemsley Light Railway Limited £26,500
    Dinmore Manor Locomotive Ltd £26,100
    Great Northern & East Lincolnshire Railway Ltd T/A Lincolnshire Wolds Railway £25,000
    Aln Valley Railway Trust £21,300
    Cambrian Heritage Railways Limited £20,000
    Colne Valley Railway Preservation Ltd. £20,000

    Tom
     
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    The SVR asked for £1m and got £906k. There was a process (scaling?) but I don't know what it is.

    Patrick
     
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    I suppose it would be naive of me to assume that this new injection of cash into the WSR would provide a reason to rescind the Notice to Quit over Washford for the SDRT and the impending overhaul costs of SDRT loco '88' and therefore see the WSR plc board honouring it's legal obligations?

    And I trust not one penny of this grant will be spent on evicting the SDRT from Washford.
     
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    While there was no detail last night on BBC West, it was mentioned in passing at the very end of the 10.30pm news update. Suspect more to come from the BBC here.
     
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    Unfortunately i am under the impression that the trust as already decided to relocate, sad as that may be, I think that in time that's the right decision for them, Such would be the mistrust, and dare I say hostility they must feel, , a fresh start where they feel welcomed has to be a positive move, this is the legacy that will follow the members of the currant PLC board long after they cease to be members of the railway . they chose to evict the trust, they must take the responsibility for any actions that may follow.
     
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    It does say that the Canal and Rivers Trust is one of twelve organisations that between them will receive £34m

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