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Weymouth Quay Tramway

Discussion in 'Steam Traction' started by paulhitch, Aug 28, 2016.

  1. Johnb

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    I think it was an Ivatt Tank that banked 4498 out of Weymouth on the 1967 railtour
     
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    Not certain of that. Have in my mind that Weymouth banking was by a Pacific but an Ivatt banked from Poole to Bournemouth. That said, apart from specials, I think the Weymouth Quay question may hinge on when banking out of Weymouth with steam stopped. For example, in May 1967 I travelled back on the 1815 ex Weymouth when we had a pilot up the bank. It wasn't steam as my notes would have said so. Can only conclude it was diesel so it is possible that towards the end, in 1967, the CI boat trains had a Class 33 up to the junction. An interesting question though.
     
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    You are quite correct I got confused with the Poole banker, 41320, the Weymouth banker was 34087 (it was a long time ago) I should have Googled it first. 3/4 June 67 I remember I was out all weekend photographing it and from getting up Saturday morning didn't get to bed again until nearly midnight on Sunday. The daft things we used to do and some of us are still at it.
     
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    Have you ever cycled on a cycleway, what with the extendable dog leads, people wandering aimlessly about and walking 5 a breast its not a good place to be on a bike, plus government guidance states that if you are cycling over c.20mph you should do it on the road rather than cycleway.

    *sits back and awaits the road tax argument*

    Returning to the issue in hand just forwarded a link to the video to my friend who has just moved to Weymouth and cannot believe that trains ever actually used the tramway!
     
  5. John Stewart

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    Is it illogical to not wish to ride on a surface which is ill-maintained, not treated in icy weather, subject to frequent give-way situations, abused by pedestrians and dogs, narrowed by encroaching vegetation, often absent at points of maximum conflict and, above all, slower than using the carriageway ?
     
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    Don't you think if you want to have a flame war about cycles you should do it in a different thread chaps?
     
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    At least I said that I ridden the Weymouth Tramway route safely, the relevance being that allegations that rails in the road were dangerous were ill-founded.
     
  8. paulhitch

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    There's no reasoning with a placard waver.

    Paul H
     
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    If only Weymouth had a turntable
     
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    that's rich coming from NP arch( all preserved railways are doing it wrong except the IoW) placard waver:Chillout:

    Colin
     
  11. paulhitch

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    And the South Devon Railway plus the Dartmouth Steam Railway and, increasingly, the Mid Hants so please get it correct. Additionally, a placard waver is an incorrigible romantic which I most certainly am not.

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    Bringing this thread back to what it is supposed to be discussing.....I think I may have a partial answer for @Johnb about steam on the Quay branch as I've been in touch with someone who was Weymouth based in the 1960s and also has links into Weymouth MPD.

    The last steam loco down the branch was, as far as I can tell, the Green Arrow Rail Tour on July 3rd 1966 when the V2 (60919) failed and it was worked by 34002 plus 45493. 41298 did the honours down to the Quay. Previous to that the CI boat trains had already changed to diesel shunters doing the Quay leg. The rough chronology is:
    Diesel shunters were first apparent on the Quay from early in 1962.
    GWR steam stopped working at Weymouth at the end of 1963 and diesels took over.
    Ivatt tanks appeared at Weymouth around mid 1964 although not normally down to the Quay.
    Last steam to the Quay in July 1966 - rail tour as above.
    The last CI boat train that was steam hauled was on July 8th 1967 behind 35023. The leg to the junction was diesel as it had been for some time.
     
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    Thanks for the info, I think I've got a picture of 35023 on that train, I was out by the lineside all day on the 8th and I thought that steam may have been used during those last few days but sadly not it seems
     
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    I had a ride on the branch in 1979, with the GWS Vintage Train
     
  15. paulhitch

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    I have seem a picture of 41298 working a train elsewhere in the Weymouth area in 1965. She appears to be sporting a smallish bell (the picture is not absolutely clear) in front of the fireman's side cab window. Presumably this means she at any rate was used sufficiently on the tramway to warrant this fitting as opposed to relying upon a flagman. It still strikes me as improbable that any steam loco larger than an 0-6-0T and a short wheelbase one at that was ever allowed down the quay but it happened. Obviously bogie diesels, some quite large, like Class 37, would be likely to be better adapted to the curvature.

    Paul H
     
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    I'm not too familiar with Weymouth, but I understand it shares some similarities with the Bristol Harbour Railway in having inset track close to water. In Bristol at least one cyclist has died as a result of trying to cycle on the inset track. Cyclists are now officially banned from that part of the quayside as a result, although I regularly see cyclists ignoring the many large warning signs telling them to detour.
     
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    Or even a different forum?
     
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    When were the last timetabled trains down the quay? I remember being about 5 and going on holiday down there and the Wessex Electrics were newish, and I think regular trains had finished sometime earlier? This was 1989 so was it before then?
     
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    Not precisely sure, but I think the timetable was recast with electrification and the decision made to drop services to the quay.

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    According to Wikipedia, regular passenger services finished in 1987. Make of that what you like...!

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