If you register, you can do a lot more. And become an active part of our growing community. You'll have access to hidden forums, and enjoy the ability of replying and starting conversations.

What's your dream obscure railway restoration project?

Discussion in 'Heritage Railways & Centres in the UK' started by timmydunn, Aug 5, 2008.

  1. Martin Perry

    Martin Perry Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Moderator Friend

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2006
    Messages:
    16,551
    Likes Received:
    7,897
    Location:
    1012 / 60158
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Thanks for the update. Wasn't this the stretch of line where a C2X fell into a stream when the bridge was undermined by a flood? The loco was recovered but the line was not reinstated?
     
  2. steamybrian

    steamybrian New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2008
    Messages:
    144
    Likes Received:
    2
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Retired
    Location:
    South East England
    Answer to Martin Perry.
    Correct----The Midhurst- Lavant section was abandoned after a C2X fell into a collapsed culvert about mile south of Midhurst. The loco was recovered but the cost of track repair was uneconomic for the passage of one train per day so it was never reopened.
     
  3. Oldhams_Last_Gaucho

    Oldhams_Last_Gaucho New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 12, 2008
    Messages:
    2
    Likes Received:
    0
    Oldham, Ashton and Guide Bridge Railway. Small matter of a missing 7 arch brick viaduct and a supermarket built over part of the track bed, but I can always dream...
     
  4. Neil_Scott

    Neil_Scott Part of the furniture

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2008
    Messages:
    3,155
    Likes Received:
    302
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Railway servant
    Location:
    Worcester
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Full length Corris would be interesting.
     
    Hando likes this.
  5. Gwenllian2001

    Gwenllian2001 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2007
    Messages:
    307
    Likes Received:
    6
    Occupation:
    Retired
    Location:
    Maesteg
    Brecon & Merthyr closely followed by Abergavenny - Merthyr and Bala - Blaenau Ffestiniog.

    Meic
     
  6. tomparryharry

    tomparryharry Member

    Joined:
    May 11, 2009
    Messages:
    385
    Likes Received:
    7
    Occupation:
    Renewable Energy
    Location:
    Isle of Wight
    The MTA? (Merthyr, Tredegar & Abergavenny)? Yes please. Bit of a problem with the A465 though. I understand that the next push at Blaenavon is to get to Waunavon (1,410' ASL). Then its down hill to the MTA at Brynmawr.

    Nadolig Llawen

    Ian
     
  7. Stuart666

    Stuart666 New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2010
    Messages:
    151
    Likes Received:
    6
    Bit late to reply to this one, but I think the Cirencester Branch would be a more authentic option for Broad Gauge, Tetbury as you know was laid as standard from the start. OTOH Cirencester would now sadly be a non starter with one end truncated by a Bypass, and the other truncated by a demolished bridge and a road widening.

    Tetbury gets my vote though I have to say. There are a LOT of demolished bridges though, but if done in stages it would be viable. There are even 2 surviving railbus's that ran on the line. The only question in my find is whether Tetbury would really welcome the railway back. They didnt even do anything to get it appproved for sustrans.

    There was talk of relaying the Faringdon Branch as mixed gauge, with broad gauge historic traffic in the weekends, and dmus on the weekdays. I would like to have seen that happen, however inpracticable it may be to get it to work:)

    For a REALLY out there idea, what about the Wantage tramway with modern rolling stock? After all, there is talk of Wantage road being put back around 2015 or so, when the coal traffic to didcot goes away. There is a significant amount of housing on that road to the station that might just make a tramway viable again. You could then pull out the heritage set for special occasions.
     
  8. michaelh

    michaelh Part of the furniture

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2006
    Messages:
    3,080
    Likes Received:
    1,291
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Very comfortably early retired
    Location:
    1029
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    I'd go for the whole length from Moat Lane to Talyllyn Junction. I was 10 when it closed and not too far away (Worcester) How I wish I'd seen 3 trains at Three Cocks Junction.

    I've got the Block Register from Three Cocks Junction Signal Box here in my study and I keep it open for the the day I was born in December 1952. I've deliberately never been to the site of the junction as I think it would be too depressing.
     
  9. michaelh

    michaelh Part of the furniture

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2006
    Messages:
    3,080
    Likes Received:
    1,291
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Very comfortably early retired
    Location:
    1029
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    How far away from Strata Florida are you?
     
  10. Austerity

    Austerity Member

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2006
    Messages:
    213
    Likes Received:
    1
    Occupation:
    Loco Fitter
    Location:
    UK
    Well since Fireline mentioned the Elham Valley Line about 2 years ago on this thread-my other choice would be the MGW branch from Claremorris to Ballinrobe. I believe part of the branch is still a siding at Claremorris and most of the formation is still available although you would have to realign for a new terminus at Ballinrobe. Perhaps it would be prudent to use regauged Finnish locos(5' up to 5' 3") to update performance as well as get some MGW antiques newly built.
     
  11. Matt35027

    Matt35027 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2009
    Messages:
    1,122
    Likes Received:
    143
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Builder
    Location:
    Near 74D
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    I would rebuild The Westerham Branch. Only a couple of miles from my doorstep. But 2 housing developments would need to be flattened and the M25 was built on Brasted Halt.
     
  12. Gilesy68

    Gilesy68 New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2010
    Messages:
    77
    Likes Received:
    35
    Occupation:
    Aircraft Engineer
    Location:
    Hampshire
    The Meon Valley is the favourite of a lot of people on here, me definitely included. The southern part from Knowle to West Meon would present few problems. I have often thought that if the line hadn't been closed then the Meon Valley area would not be the be beautiful, tranquil place it is today but a long modern conurbation full of London commuters.

    If you want something obscure then I like the idea of extending the Mid Hants from Alresford towards Winchester junction, nothing odd there, but just before reaching the junction continue the curve and descend down onto the DNS. You could then demolish anything in the way and enter Winchester by way of Kings Worthy and Winnal before terminating at a fantastic, rebuilt Chesil station. You could even have workshops and sheds on the spacious site at Bar End! You could even paint it all green and cream as the southern part of the DNS was transferred to the SR in the '60s!! You could even extend to a main line connection at Shawford junction over the wonderful viaduct!!!

    Wow, my imagination knows no bounds! :lol:
     
  13. StoneRoad

    StoneRoad Member

    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2009
    Messages:
    976
    Likes Received:
    385
    Occupation:
    Restoration of heritage items, mainly in timber.
    Location:
    Haltwhistle
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Clifton Rocks Railway - would be a really obscure railway to restore, bet it would be a little difficult to spot on google earth.

    Otherwise, how about the Weston Clifton & Portishead Railway - if only for the abbreviation of the name.
    Then again, the Lambourn Valley Railway is pretty obscure.....

    *sneaks off stage left, sniggering quietly*
     
  14. Stuart666

    Stuart666 New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2010
    Messages:
    151
    Likes Received:
    6
    I bought a DVD all about the WC and P, and there is a group dedicated to preserving whats left of the line. Supposedly their long term ambition is to restore a section for traffic, but Ive no idea how progressed that idea is. Judging by what a tourist trap weston now is, it clearly would have potential.
     
  15. Coboman

    Coboman Member

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2010
    Messages:
    534
    Likes Received:
    4
    Location:
    GNR Outpost
    That was a damn good prediction! Work starts in January....
     
  16. martin butler

    martin butler Part of the furniture

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2008
    Messages:
    3,440
    Likes Received:
    388
    One thing i would love to see is a museum / heritige centre on the former Ashford works site, part is used by Beatty but there are still several old buildings still standing, it is right next to the station and the designer centre, so plenty of other attctions for the mrs, i would invest in two low loaders so that stock could easily be brought here, far too often one major cost is the removal of an engine from one site to another, if you were able to provide your own low loader, you could attract out of ticket locos to display in a re constucted shed , i would have a proper restoration shed with over head crane and fully equiped workshop to provide a source of income as well as visitor entrance fees, one option would be to get together several locos that are currently out of ticket, that are suitable to the area, and create a southern museum
    i would move the 2 Merchant Navy locos from Selinge and the J94 to Ashford where they would stand a better chance of getting restored, Selinge could then concentrate on laying 5ft gauge track for the Finnish locos and turn itself into a theme park around the finish locos if they can get hold of a coach to run with them, that is .
    Ashford could also be used as a servicing point for railtours, you have the Marsh line that doesnt see much steam use, and you are in the right area for starting some from kent running to london, then returning in the evening, rather than having to travel up to london
     
  17. Otter Valley

    Otter Valley New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2011
    Messages:
    2
    Likes Received:
    0
    My railways are the Sidmouth and Budleigh Salterton branch lines which I consider should be reopened to benefit the inhabitants of Ottery St Mary, Tipton St Johns, Otterton, East Budleigh, Littleham, Sidmouth etc.

    Re name Feniton as Sidmouth Junction.

    Six months of correspondence with the Department for Transport between June and November 2007, and again in 2009 and 2010. Also via the Prime Ministers office.

    As part of Network rail. Reconnecting communities. Not just for local people but for all those across the country who can access coastal places.

    Also reopen the line from Matlock to Buxton, thereby creating new through route between Manchester and Derby - relief line. 8 miles of track and you have a new North West to East Midlands line for freight and passengers.
    Feasibility study already conducted by Strategic Rail Authority - positive. Lines between Manchester and Buxton, and Derby and Matlock already open and thriving.

    Also reopen route from Barnstaple to Bideford. Supported by local councils and Network rail said in 2009 that it could be done. According to local newspaper.
     
  18. Gav106

    Gav106 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2010
    Messages:
    1,772
    Likes Received:
    2,170
    Location:
    Nantwich, Cheshire
    i used to live in ottery. my parents live in whimple. i completely agree on that. a loop line round east devon would be really good. shame they built straight over it with the a30
     
  19. Otter Valley

    Otter Valley New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2011
    Messages:
    2
    Likes Received:
    0
    re the A30. There was a tunnel for the railway under the A30 which got filled in near Feniton, and the cutting the opposite side filled in as well.

    I understand that the Railway Development Society - called Rail Future - argued with the local authority to keep the tunnel clear but that this was ignored by the Highways Agency at the time when the road widening of the A30 went ahead. (Told this by their representative living in Exete)r.

    The tunnel will of course still be their, but filled in. It can be excavated, bearing in mind it was only a very short tunnel in the first place.

    Housing has been built on the line in several places but only in a relatively small way. Nothing that cannot be dealt with by compulsory purchase of course.
     
  20. Paul Grant

    Paul Grant Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2010
    Messages:
    1,524
    Likes Received:
    1,120
    Location:
    Fife
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Aberlour - Dufftown with seperate services to Craigellachie (larger locos and stock from Keith and small industrials and a 4wheelers to Aberlour). Walked Aberlour - Craigellachie recently and its all intact except where it meets the A95 which would require the current tunnel to be replaced and re-aligned. Need to walk Dufftown-Craigellachie but since its a cycle path, most of its intact and relatively easy to re-instate. The more I think about it the more I want to do this.

    Why 4-6 wheelers? Plenty of small railways use Mk1s/ 2s and good examples are becoming scarce. There are plenty of bodies in relatively good nick that could be mounted and restored. To me, they are far more interesting vehicles and make for a somewhat more nostalgic atmosphere compared to a "J94" on a few MK1s (not that theres anything wrong with that, it just doesn't get me excited). There is also a large amount of pre-BR stock looking for restoration as well, the converted departmental vehicles could be restored to service without having to convert them back. I don't even want to think about the costs but its certainly doable. It would give the KDR another feather in their bow and the railway would go somewhere (an extension to Keith jct as well would be a big boost). The whole of that end of speyside is just distillery tours, but this gives something that can tie in with them (and perhaps serve the distileries with passengers and goods).

    Reading through the thread and the link to Aussie steam, there are a few interesting examples out there just calling out to be repatriated and put to good use like the Beyer 2-8-2T (the equvilant of the GWR versions) and 2-4-0T (I believe the IoW have ideas about buying one in the future), this interesting 0-6-0T: which looks like a larger Terrier/ G6 to me http://www.australiansteam.com/1076.htm and this bizzare Hudswell: http://www.australiansteam.com/nswind/southbulli2.jpg.
     

Share This Page