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Will we see LMS 5690 in 2014?

Discussion in 'Steam Traction' started by mike1522, Jan 24, 2014.

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  1. Duty Druid

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    What ever she is, I think she looks the Mutt's Nuts! :)

    Hat off to the Beet's!
     
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    Hellifield and back tomorrow morning ???
    Could anyone ITK confirm.
     
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  4. Sidmouth

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    I have to say I think she looks stunning in Black and thanks to Chris Beet and all involved for this
     
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  5. goldfish

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    Oh dear. At least it's only temporary I guess. With the ubiquity of black 5s it seems very contrary to do this to Leander. You need to look pretty hard to identify it as a Jubilee from distance.

    Simon
     
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    S.A.C. Martin Part of the furniture

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    Is this a livery some members of the class did wear, out of curiosity?
     
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    A few apparently did, Simon. Although AFAIK it was only ones with Fowler tenders, not Stanier ones as sported by Leander.

    Nevertheless, it does make a change, & has already been reported, it's only a temporary livery.
     
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  8. 26D_M

    26D_M Part of the furniture

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    Heritage Painting suggested the livery is historically correct for the loco as is.
     
    26D_M, Sep 7, 2014
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    I believe it's correct apart from the emblem. Leander apparently wore this livery with BRITISH RAILWAYS instead of the lion
     
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    That was the rumoured variant when black emerged as the chosen colour.
    Guess it might be one for the future as there seems to be plans for regular refreshes.
     
    26D_M, Sep 7, 2014
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    Even better then - amazing what comes to light when people start digging. My info was from a thread elsewhere a few months ago. Will have to see if I can find out where from :)
     
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  12. std tank

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    According to the records, only three Jubilees carried the BR lined black livery with the lion emblem on the tender. They were 45679 Armada, 45699 Galatea and 45700 Amethyst.
     
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    Did 45700 outshopping coincide with its renaming?
    Were they the only ones with the Stanier tenders to have the lion?
     
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    45700 as Britannia had BRITISH RAILWAYS on the tender. When it was renamed, the tender had received the lion emblem. It had a Fowler tender, by the way.
    45679 was probably fitted with a Fowler tender at the time.
    45699 received a Stanier tender in 1944.
    So Galatea is the only Jubilee that would be correct in Leander's present livery. How apt!!
     
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    I can see the application of passenger liveries to the steam fleet on the mainline today being something that is set to continue. While this is more mixed traffic, this and Galateas livery into BR Maroon I think are quite refreshing. These engines are still working and earning revenue for a business. This idea of them having to be exactly historically accurate always means we look backwards. They remain in traffic and as such are just in a new chapter of their working lives, I can see BR Express passenger blue and brunswick green being given to an engine or two as other engines want to emulate the idea that changing liveries mid traffic is a good way of keeping in the spot light and gaining attention.

    As for Leander, I know Mr Beet really knows his engines and this is his own loco. It looks very nice in Black. Keep up the good work...
     
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    I like it, certainly a change from Red or Green.
     
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    Gets the thumbs up from me if it did happen, must admit I was expecting post war LMS black mind.
     
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    Some of us still live in hope for 6115 :cool:
     
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    At least we have the answer to the thread title - NO!
     
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    according to the Wild Swan published locomotive Monographs on Jubilees

    The following carried lined black and early crest 45574, 45699, 45700(FT), 45644(pictured with larger numerals). There is no note re 45679 in Black however a record of Green late crest from 1959 onwards


    Those below appearing in lined Black but with British Railways on the tender
    45612, 45658, 45663, 45678, 45690, 45695 (FT), 45700, 45704 (FT), 45709, 45719 (FT) , 45721 (FT) 45735

    in all cases (FT) denotes a Fowler tender
     
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